Fastest Known Podcast

The Boundary Waters is 1.1 million acres of incredible glaciated terrain way up in northern Minnesota on the Canada border, and yet is the most-visited Wilderness Area in the United States.  Because it is so good.  Even if YOU have never been there!

"Boundary Waters is as remote as it gets.  Alex had everything dialed - those people are hard-core canoists - they paddled over two hours to get to the support locations!" - Clare

"We're focused on the wrong thing - people are caught up in this controversy or that battle, but we always say, Bears Ears is about healing."

I've been running, cycling, and climbing in this area for decades, and on a recent trip, I realized ... that I knew little about this place. The history and heritage here is almost unfathomable.

Dave is old school: extremely nice and will never talk about himself ... but don't enter a race that he is in, because you will probably get beat by a guy with one leg.  How would you feel about that?  (He feels fine about it.)

Co-Host Hillary Allen asks Jason the obvious question, "Why go for 100 FKTs?"

"It's been a wild journey; in the works for two, going on three years. I had a wild 2020; I did 60 FKTs last year."

"The game gets harder the more you play it. I had to learn new skills, get more creative, become better."

How do you find the time to do all this?

"If you know Ironman training, you know I was used a lifestyle of constant movement."

Many climbers and hikers visit Indian Creek and the Needles District of Canyonlands NP each year; they run a trail for 10 miles, or climb a few 200 foot routes, then leave, feeling pretty good about their accomplishment.  Heidi has been everywhere on 350,000 acres for 56 years, winter and summer.  She knows every spring, every route, and countless Anasazi petroglyphs you never knew existed.  

Hillary Allen speaks with Kelly Newlon of Real Athlete Diets: "Delicious, performance orientated food for active people"!  On June 1 Timothy Olson will start his attempt on Pacific Crest Trail, and Kelly will be there as part of his crew. For 52 days.  What will that be like?  How can diet support a huge effort like this?

The PCT is one of our 10 Premier Routes for good reasons! It is 2,597 miles long, with 420,880' of vert, passes through 25 national forests and 7 national parks ... and is competitive.  

And Timothy has been a top ultrarunner, with two wins at the Western States 100 including a Course Record.  Game on!

GOOD TIMING!

This podcast was recorded on April 26; when asked "What is next", Dylan divulges he's going for an (undisclosed) FKT "This coming weekend" ...

But first, Co-Host Hillary Allen asks D-Bo about his FKT on the Wonderland Trail last year.

"I fell into a pandemic funk, too many IPA's, so needed a goal.  We had just moved to Portland Oregon, a couple hours from the Wonderland Trail. I was inspired by Kyle Skaggs, and knew I wanted to do this."

Hillary is a podcast host (this one and two others), North Face athlete, gravel bike racer, scientist, and now a book author - this is a good conversation!

"I don't recommend falling off a 150' cliff, but everyone has a place where they can grow."

Co-Host Hillary Allen discusses bike-packing with two of the best, as they explain the style of these races, which is informative to hikers and runners.

The ethos for all bike-packing races is Self-Supported.

"Generally the consensus is you are carrying your own food and water, you are not caching; the point is you can buy or obtain anything along the route as long as it is available to everyone else.  Trail Magic is OK, but you can't ask for it or plan for it."